Are you being manipulated by women?

[supersuk]

Thought this was a good read... I've only read a few pages but made me lol a few times because its kinda true. Obviously not always applicable, but its quite generally true. I'm willing to bet that some of you will recognize parallels in your marriage/relationship.

I drew a few parallels about how this world caters to idiots. Ever notice the more capable at work you are, the more you do? If you're just stay under the radar or are somewhat incompetant, you do the easy stuff (often at the same pay).

Its not really women bashing, if anything its degrading to men... but its kind of true...

some good quotes:

"Could it be that strength, intelligence, and imagination are not prerequisites for power
but merely qualifications for slavery? Could it be that the world is not being ruled by
experts but by beings who are not fit for anything else - by women?"

"Why do women not make use of their intellectual potential? For the simple reason
that they do not need to. It is not essential for their survival. Theoretically it is
possible for a beautiful woman to have less intelligence than a chimpanzee and still
be considered an acceptable member of society."

"When a man sees a woman spending hours cooking, washing dishes and cleaning, it
never occurs to him that such jobs probably make her quite happy since they are
exactly at her mental level. Instead he assumes that this drudgery prevents her from
doing all those things which he himself considers worthwhile and desirable.
Therefore, he invents automatic
dishwashers, vacuum cleaners, and precooked foods to make her life easier and to
allow her to lead the dream life he himself longs for.
But he will be disappointed: rarely using the time she has gained to take an active
interest in history, politics or astrophysics, woman bakes cakes, irons underclothes
and makes ruffles and frills for blouses or, if she is especially enterprising, covers her
bathroom with flower decals"

[joel]

interesting that the author is a women herself. i just skimmed the intro.

seeing for the most part, i see joyce being the smarter and more educated between the two of us i don't necessarily relate to some of this stuff. joyce puts more hours into her career than i do as well. and overall probably more hours of chores.

[supersuk]

[nature boy]

in general women and men operate in certain ways. there are always exceptions of course, but in general it's all the same.
women = emotional
men = logical

that's why we have such a hard time understanding each other.

[nature boy]

whoa, i didn't actually click the link because i wanted to wait to have time to read it... it's over 60 pages!!!
did you actually read the whole thing?

[se7entse7en]

You didn't even read the first post!

[joel]

isnt the idea that the more "intelligent" gender, supposedly men, being manipulated by women somewhat ironic?

if men are this easily manipulated, that begs the question who really are the intelligent ones then? and if you know of this manipulation the author speaks of, and are still being manipulated, then to some level you must be allowing it to continue, at least on a person-to-person level.

[nature boy]

i read the other posts, and i really was going to read the posted document when i had the time. i didn't realise that it was a novel.

[nature boy]

[joel]

you have to give up control to be controlled.

[nature boy]

on the most part, yes. but even in giving up control, you can still control.

case in point: there are times when i want to buy something but winnie doesn't want me to. i'd say something like that's not fair that she can control what i buy and what i can't. she ends up saying something like, "fine, buy it then".

"control" there is given up, but who still maintains the control?